america is a more violent prone, violence prone society than any european one today. a lot of that has to do with our history and our makeup and their mentality. but, yes, 30,000 is way too many and 18,000 deaths is way too many we ought to be discussing as many ways as we can to bring it down. i don't think were wherever going to eliminate it entirely though. >> host: one of the things you mentioned, you talk about stricter penalties and we have covered both of those. you mentioned licensing and registration. you touched on it briefly but that's something that does generally get peoples attention. how would you successfully work that? >> guest: first of all i would go back to the history and people ought to look at that and say, well we have always had gun registrations. it's just been on a local level. i think the second many and in the court's decision surrounding it probably make it clear that the federal government should be the agency that registers guns. in fact there are laws that congress has passed but there are some states that permit registering guns. why